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The apprentice outgrows Bhatti

Medieval Dated c. 600 CE – 900 CE Southeast Asia

Status: Already answered

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Claim (verbatim)

The Old Javanese Ramayana, the oldest surviving kakawin (c. ninth century), is a graded exercise in composing Sanskrit-style poetry in a new literary language: its true parent is not Valmiki but Bhatti's Ravanavadha (the Bhattikavya), itself a grammar-demonstration poem — a dependence established by Manomohan Ghosh in 1936 and worked through by Hooykaas. A poet writing his language's first mahakavya leans on the model while learning and walks free once fluent; apprenticeship is sequential, so dependence should decay along the poem's own length rather than sit in patches. The kakawin is thus a fossil of second-language poetic acquisition, and its correspondence profile against Bhatti should have the shape of a learning curve. Prediction: aligning the kakawin's sargas against the Bhattikavya via the published stanza-correspondence registers, matched stanzas per hundred kakawin stanzas will decline from the first quarter of the poem to the last, with the final quarter's match rate under one-third of the first quarter's (primary clause: the final-to-first-quarter ratio below one-third; the verdict follows it). Kill: Kern's 1900 edition of the Old Javanese Ramayana (public domain) read against a standard Bhattikavya edition, with the correspondence analysis in Hooykaas, The Old-Javanese Ramayana: An Exemplary Kakawin as to Form and Content (1958) and Ghosh's 1936 source study.

Prediction clause (verbatim)

Prediction: aligning the kakawin's sargas against the Bhattikavya via the published stanza-correspondence registers, matched stanzas per hundred kakawin stanzas will decline from the first quarter of the poem to the last, with the final quarter's match rate under one-third of the first quarter's (primary clause: the final-to-first-quarter ratio below one-third; the verdict follows it).

Kill-dataset (verbatim)

Kill: Kern's 1900 edition of the Old Javanese Ramayana (public domain) read against a standard Bhattikavya edition, with the correspondence analysis in Hooykaas, The Old-Javanese Ramayana: An Exemplary Kakawin as to Form and Content (1958) and Ghosh's 1936 source study.

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Place & era tags — Assigned: Southeast Asia; Medieval Tagged by Claude (Opus 4.8)
Dating — Phenomenon: Dated c. 600 CE – 900 CE Old Javanese Ramayana kakawin (c.9th c. CE, oldest surviving kakawin) and its Sanskrit model Bhatti's Ravanavadha/Bhattikavya (c.7th c. CE India); union of compared literary traditions per rubric. Tagged by claude-sonnet-5 + claude-fable-5 (gate)
Subject — Assigned: Literature & poetics; Authors' minds & methods kakawin's textual dependence on its model poem decays as the poet's craft matures Tagged by claude-sonnet-5
Finer subject topic — Assigned: Vernacular literature the first mahakavya of a new literary language learning to carry Sanskrit form is squarely the vernacular literary cultures page's subject Tagged by claude-opus-5 draft (requested max effort) adjudicated by claude-fable-5-1 driver, lane 1da5; runtime not independently attested
Claim level — Assigned: Record claim the prediction is a stanza-correspondence profile along one poem's length, a property of how the text was composed Tagged by claude-opus-5 draft (requested max effort) adjudicated by claude-fable-5-1 driver, lane 1da5; runtime not independently attested
Method — Reviewed — none applies: the registered statistic is the ratio of matched-stanza rates between the last and the first quarter of the poem, required to fall below one-third; a two-bin ratio, with no power law in cumulative output and no learning exponent Tagged by claude-opus-5 draft (requested max effort) adjudicated by claude-fable-5-1 driver, lane 1da5; runtime not independently attested
Evidence source — Assigned: Published editions Kern's edition read against a Bhattikavya edition with Hooykaas's and Ghosh's correspondence registers is the countable alignment Tagged by claude-opus-5 draft (requested max effort) adjudicated by claude-fable-5-1 driver, lane 1da5; runtime not independently attested
Research stage — Idea — no test designed

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Provenance

Run: Fresh agent generation · model: claude-fable-5

Fresh blind generation, claude-fable-5, 2026-07-16, breadth wave: under-represented cultures & places (Southeast Asia + Central/Inner Asia), produced from model knowledge; grounded in real works/inscriptions/corpora; no fabricated citations.

Novelty / leakage triage

already answered in the literature

The correspondence profile along the poem has been mapped since Hooykaas: close adherence to the Bhattikavya only in the first part (about the first 65% of the work), thinning after sarga 13 and vanished from sarga 17 onward, with Khanna and Saran's 1993 revision arguing looser reuse resumes in sargas 19-24. The quarter-by-quarter ratio is arithmetic over an already-published decay profile.

Sources cited by the triage

C. Hooykaas, The Old-Javanese Ramayana: An Exemplary Kakawin as to Form and Content (Amsterdam, 1958)
V. Khanna & M. Saran, 'The Ramayana Kakawin: A Product of Sanskrit Scholarship and Independent Literary Genius', Bijdragen tot de Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde 149 (1993)

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